Key Moments

00:00 – Introduction and welcome

00:37 – Pleomorphism: Why Lyme is a shapeshifter bacteria

04:31 – Why doxycycline doubles round bodies (makes Lyme worse)

06:32 – Round bodies in tick saliva: immediate antibiotic resistance

08:00 – NutraMedix Stevia: only treatment that eradicates stationary phase

10:10 – Side benefits vs. side effects of herbal medicine

12:48 – It’s never just Lyme: addressing co-infections

16:02 – Burbur-Pinella for Herxheimer reactions

16:30 – Acute Lyme treatment protocols

22:06 – Bartonella case study: importance of covering co-infections

25:12 – Cryptolepis for chronic Lyme and resistant infections

26:42 – Safety of herbs in pregnancy and breastfeeding

32:25 – Treating children with herbal medicine

36:09 – The mold connection: when treatment isn’t working

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Why Herbs Beat Antibiotics for Lyme DiseaseThe Food Allergy Epidemic

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Darin Ingels, ND

Your Host

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Teresa Holler

Family Practice Physician Assistant

In this episode of Resilient Health Radio, Dr. Darin Ingels interviews Teresa Holler about how herbal medicine is showing stronger results than antibiotics for Lyme disease, supported by clinical research published since 2020.

Overview:

In this episode of Resilient Health Radio, Dr. Darin Ingels interviews Teresa Holler about how herbal medicine is showing stronger results than antibiotics for Lyme disease, supported by clinical research published since 2020.

🔬 What You’ll Discover:
• Comprehensive herbal protocols for acute and chronic Lyme
• Safe treatment approaches for children and pregnant women

🌿 Key Herbs Discussed:
• Banderol (Otoba bark) – reduces biofilm by 75%
• Cumanda – broad antimicrobial coverage
• Chinese Skullcap – Babesia coverage, anti-inflammatory
• Cryptolepis – eradicates Bartonella and Babesia persisters

📊 Clinical Research Referenced:
• Dr. Ying Zhang (Johns Hopkins) – persister cell studies
• Lida Mattman – pioneering work on pleomorphism

💊 Treatment Protocols Mentioned: Acute Lyme:
• Samento + Banderol (or NutroBRL combination)
• Add Stevia for final 2 months
• Optional: Homeopathic Ledum

Prophylaxis (tick bite):
• Samento + NutraBRT (covers Lyme + Bartonella)
• Add Chinese Skullcap for Babesia coverage
• Burbur-Pinella for detox support

Chronic Lyme:
• Samento + Banderol + Cumanda (the trifecta)
• Cryptolepis for resistant Bartonella/Babesia
• Chinese Skullcap for inflammation and Babesia

🔍 Important Findings:
• Only 17% of Lyme patients recall a tick bite
• More than 50% have negative lab tests
• Herbs provide immune modulation, not just antimicrobial effects

⚠️ Medical Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended as medical advice or to replace consultation with a qualified healthcare provider. Always consult your physician before starting any new treatment protocol, especially if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or have underlying health conditions.

👥 About the Hosts:
Dr. Darin Ingels, ND Naturopathic physician specializing in Lyme disease, tick-borne illnesses, and integrative medicine. Host of Resilient Health Radio.

Teresa Holler, PA-C Physician Assistant with extensive experience treating Lyme and tick-borne diseases using herbal medicine and integrative approaches.

🔗 Resources Mentioned:
• NutraMedix herbal products
• Mold testing: ermi.bios.com, myletics.com
• Homeopathic Ledum (for tick bites)

Disclaimer

All the information and advice presented in this podcast is only for educational purposes. It is not meant to diagnose, treat, cure, heal, or prevent any health condition. Go to a professional physician or qualified healthcare provider with any questions related to a disease or medical condition before performing any type of exercise, supplement, diet, or other action featured in this podcast. This podcast should not replace what your doctor or health care provider tells you.

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